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As a result of following URLs about Austin Sheerlines, I have had a misconception 'destroyed'. I always thought that the Rolls Royce engine fitted to the Van den Plas 4-litre R was also the engine fitted to the Austin Champ.
In fact that is not true. Although the Champ engine (at least in the military versions) was, indeed, designed (and originally built) by Rolls Royce, this was a mere 2.8 litre capacity and was only four cylinders whereas the car engine was six cylinders.
True that the basic B-series engine design was common, but the 4-litre engine was cast in aluminium (and, is, apparently, a fine engine - if meticulously maintained) and had altered stroke:-
http://www.redlemon.co.za/vandenplasprincess/rolls.html

However, the purpose of this thread is to expand knowledge of the Champ (after all, this forum is dedicated to trucks and buses rather than passenger cars).
I'll start with the Wiki entry:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Champ
and invite others to contribute links to photographs or text articles.

You might want to search for the Wolseley Mudlark . . .

http://enc.slq.qld.gov.au/slq/neg/pr...00/116058p.jpg

If there is little (or no) response, then I might have to contribute myself.

Oh - and if you have already read the above Wiki link, you will know that most of the civilian Champs were fitted with the 2.66 litre Austin Atlantic engine . . .

Then there was the Austin Gipsy.

From what I remember of them they were not looked upon favourably (oil leaks I think) and the cheaper Land Rover soon became popular.

Indeed - they lost oil from the axles (hubs?) and that destroyed the gears.

As you stated, the Land Rover did 90% of the jobs that the Champ could at half the price (and cheaper on maintenance).

Champ was too 'sophisticated'.

Austin Champ! Now there's a name I haven't heard of for a while. I'm not familiar with those at all.

Anyone remember the Austin Gipsy (drive shafts :eek: )

Quote:

The Gipsy was visually similar to the Land Rover, but unlike the Land Rover, the Gipsy's bodywork was steel and suffered badly from rust in the outdoors off-road environment it was intended for. The suspension was sophisticated - independent suspension all round, using 'Flexitor' rubber springs. Later models used leaf springs on the front and rear which was felt to offer a greatly improved ride over rough surfaces.

From:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Gipsy

What is a Landrovers' body made of then?

Aluminium . . .

Quote:

The bodywork was hand-made out of surplus aircraft grade aluminium, mainly an aluminium/magnesium alloy called Birmabright, to save on steel, which was closely rationed.

More at:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Series

But, I thought you could weld onto a Landrover body??

You can weld panel tears or cracks etc, a smaller nozzle has to be used than for metal of a similar thickness and not for the faint hearted as the alloy melts easily so you could be in for a whole lot of fun.

You can weld the Land Rover chassis no bother with mig. or oxy acetylene because its mild steel, the body is different story i prefer to fit new panels they are quite cheap and easy to get a hold of

Oh! Thankyou for that. I honestly thought the Landrover body was steel. An old friend of mine, now sadly crossed the bar, bought what had been the Fire Tender for Anglesey Aluminium, which was based on a Landrover and I remember him telling me that it was aluminium bodied, but I thought he meant the "Fire engine" part!!