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G-CPTN 2nd December 2011 11:04

Schoolboy bus driver.
 
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12...99_636x332.jpg

From (and more at):- http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/883582-...ool-on-the-bus

coastie 2nd December 2011 15:43

Nice one!:):) Good for him.

Mr-Tomcat 7th December 2011 10:30

Didn't say that too me when I passed at 18!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

coastie 7th December 2011 12:56

Aye, but he hasn't hit as many things as you have!!

Mr-Tomcat 7th December 2011 17:39

Not yet, I even wrote off a Leyland National, um and a milk float.:eek::eek::eek::D

Fazer9553 8th December 2011 11:03

"£20 a day"..... good rates :rolleyes:

G-CPTN 8th December 2011 11:12

Minimum wage for the hours worked, no doubt?

Bobjork 20th December 2011 09:27

18? In sweden you have to be 21 to get a bus license...

G-CPTN 20th December 2011 09:52

Good point!

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ons/DG_4022619

Quote:

If you want a licence to drive a minibus,and you currently hold a valid full driving licence you will need to apply to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) for a provisional entitlement to drive a PCV.
There are also requirements ie. being of good character and over 21 years of age.
From:- http://www.structured.co.uk/minibus/...v-minibus.html

Quote:

Minibuses, with or without trailers

Category:- D1
Description:- Vehicles with a minimum of nine and a maximum of 16 passenger seats, with or without a trailer - weighing no more than 750 kg
Minimum age:- 21*, **, ***

Category:- D1+E
Description:- As category D1 but with a trailer over 750 kg. The total weight of the vehicle and the trailer together can’t weigh more than 12,000 kg. The weight of the trailer, when fully loaded, can’t weigh more than the unladen weight of the vehicle
Minimum age:- 21*, **, ***

Buses, with or without trailers

Category:- D
Description:- Any bus with more than eight passenger seats, with a trailer up to 750 kg
Minimum age:- 21*, **, ***

Category:- D+E
Description:- As category D but with a trailer over 750 kg
Minimum age:- 21*, **, ***

*Age 17 if you are a member of the armed services.

** You can drive these vehicles at age 18 if one of the following apply:
1) You are learning to drive or taking a PCV test or Driver CPC initial qualification
2) Having passed a PCV driving test and Driver CPC initial qualification, you can drive under any of the following conditions:
driving on a regular service where the route doesn’t exceed 50 km
not engaged in the carriage of passengers
driving a vehicle of a class included in sub-category D1
3) Having passed a PCV test before 10 September 2008 and driving under a bus operator's licence, or minibus permit, or community bus permit and any of the following conditions:
driving on a regular service where the route doesn't exceed 50 km
not engaged in the carriage of passengers
driving a vehicle of a class included in sub-category D1

***Age 20 after passing a PCV driving test and Driver CPC initial qualification.
From:- http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ons/DG_4022547

Bobjork 20th December 2011 11:39

But why can he drive it then, I mean, he's not allowed to have passengers? Or did he take a PCV test in 2008?

In sweden we don't have D1 and D1E. Yet.
But there are plans to lower the age to 18.

G-CPTN 20th December 2011 11:57

I would think that, even though the pupils don't pay, the operation would be classed as 'hire or reward' as the operator gets paid (and, indeed, pays his son).

I have observed coaches collecting pupils from schools, and noticed that none of the drivers were wearing seatbelts.

As I understand it, only stage operations are exempt
(though perhaps it could be said that dropping pupils at different locations is stage work?).
Maybe it was private hire as Taxi drivers are exempt - but is there a stipulation on what size the 'taxi' must be?

Bobjork 20th December 2011 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-CPTN (Post 11687)
I would think that, even though the pupils don't pay, the operation would be classed as 'hire or reward' as the operator gets paid (and, indeed, pays his son).

I have observed coaches collecting pupils from schools, and noticed that none of the drivers were wearing seatbelts.

As I understand it, only stage operations are exempt
(though perhaps it could be said that dropping pupils at different locations is stage work?).
Maybe it was private hire as Taxi drivers are exempt - but is there a stipulation on what size the 'taxi' must be?

Well in sweden it is a bus if it has seats for more than 8 passengers. But it can still be a taxi service, but the driver must have D on his license.

coastie 20th December 2011 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-CPTN (Post 11687)
I would think that, even though the pupils don't pay, the operation would be classed as 'hire or reward' as the operator gets paid (and, indeed, pays his son).

I have observed coaches collecting pupils from schools, and noticed that none of the drivers were wearing seatbelts.

As I understand it, only stage operations are exempt
(though perhaps it could be said that dropping pupils at different locations is stage work?).
Maybe it was private hire as Taxi drivers are exempt - but is there a stipulation on what size the 'taxi' must be?

I was once pulled by the Polis when I was driving Taxi and was told off for not wearing my seatbelt. I should have been wearing it as there were no passengers in the car. I didn't have to wear it when I had passengers in the car.

G-CPTN 20th December 2011 18:27

You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're:-

a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers

Bobjork 21st December 2011 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-CPTN (Post 11690)
You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're:-

a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers

You always think that european countries have the same rules but then you soon realise that thats not the case.
In sweden all drivers must have seat belts if the vehicle itself has it.
All vehicles, except veteran vehicles and some local buses, must have seat belts.
If a bus have seat belts for passengers it is the drivers responsibility that people under the age of 15 uses them. People over 15 may get a fine if not wearing it, but the police must catch them while the bus is running (it is not illegal to not wear a seat belt on a bus that is standing still)

G-CPTN 21st December 2011 12:21

The stage buses do not have seatbelts fitted, whereas the 'coaches' which ply the same routes are fitted with seatbelts and have signs stating that seatbelts must be worn, but nobody bothers with them.

A bus is best described (by me) as having a low floor and with space for pushchairs and wheelchairs, with double folding doors, whereas a coach has standard (high) floor and a 'plug' door and lockers underneath for luggage accessible from outside only.

Bus - Mercedes Citaro or Volvo B10BLE Wrightbus Renown
Coach - DAF SB3000 Plaxton Prima

The coaches require tachographs whereas the buses don't (though they seem to be fitted). This is because the 'route' is less than 50 km (31 miles). The 'coach' route extends to 40 miles (65 km).

When operating over common sections of the route the stops are the same for both buses and coaches, however, the coaches tend to travel between settlements (towns and villages) using major roads whereas the buses tend to stick to local roads.

Bobjork 21st December 2011 12:26

In sweden both buses and coaches have tachometers. We have bus routes that are longer than 50 km.
Both coaches and buses may, or may not have seat belts, but it is more common with buses without seat belts for the driver. For passengers there are coaches with no belts as well. And people dont bother here either, but it is their responsibility. If they're over 15.


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