Help needed in finding a Number plates history.

stu105e · #1 16th December 2011, 20:21

Hi all,
My Dad has a Ford Anglia 105e, which was 1st registered in 1961, as WRC751. In 1987, the original numberplate was sold, and another was issued to the car.
I know this forum is for buses and trucks, but bear with me please...

The WRC751, plate went onto a bus, according to a change of reg document we got with the car,
' Previous reg of receiving vehicle, FCP311W
Make: leyland bus,
operated by Gath, Dewsbury.
I have traced this bus, All I know is it was rebodied in Aug, 1980.
BNC612C before rebody.
Chassis: LD PSU3/3R L22498
Seating: C53R
Body: 033/5183.

This is all numbers to me, i would like to find pictures of this exact bus, before and after rebodying if possible. Or what type, google images shows up all sorts of stuff.

WRC751 has also been on other coaches.

Leyland tiger, (TRC/TL11/2R)Duple Dominant IV body, New to London Country, and 1st registered as YPD108Y. Owned by delaine, and grays. This was owned by Stanley Gath, 1996-1999. Presumably with WRC plates. Last owners, bennetts, and as YPD108Y.

Bedford YMP / Plaxton. PN869.5MQP2COO8, BD YMP GT 104233.
1ST registered to Angel N15, As C337UFP. Also used JIL6316, C535DWW, SIL5978, WRC751, currently using C594GVU. Was last owned by Baldrys, now in St Helens. Was this once owned by Stanley Gath, when? Who else has owned this Coach?
Any Pics with WRC?

Currently on Iveco Eurorider, 391e. Former keeper was Pagan, Hounslow. Anyone heard of them? Presently WRC751, owned by Festival Travel, in Scotland.
Been in touch, he bought: ' an old Volvo Coach from Dewsbury, with Stanley Gath on it.'

So, it has been on at least 5 coaches, were there any more.

It appears Stanley Gath got the number 1st after Dads Anglia. Then kept it until their demise when Tates Travel bought them out. Been in touch with tates, and... no records were kept.

Was it only Stanley Gath that used it?

Does anyone have any pictures of any of the coaches, especially with the WRC751 plate on.
Any other info, including dates of ownership would be great.

Thank You

Stu

coastie · #2 16th December 2011, 21:26

Firstly, Stu105e, welcome to Truck and Bus from a usually sunny, but currently very windy Isle of Anglesey.

Secondly, I notice that also reading this post is our very own Bloodhound when it comes to finding/ tracing things, namely G-CPTN. I'm sure he or any of the others might be able to help you.

G-CPTN · #3 16th December 2011, 21:39

coastie · #4 16th December 2011, 21:58

See? Didn't I tell you he was good??

stu105e · #5 17th December 2011, 00:01

Thanks for the speedy reply.

Yeah i have seen the 1st 3 pics. I have no idea why the H540 YCX has shown up, was it associated with the number at sometimeor Is it one of Stanley Gath's. What search was done to find that 1. What type of coach was FCP311W, the 1st to receive the number.

Thanks again
Stu

G-CPTN · #6 17th December 2011, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu105e

What search was done to find that 1.

I 'simply' entered the registration WRC 751 into Googoo Image and it was one of the images that came up. Things got complicated when I couldn't find it in the database where it was suggested to be, but, but enlarged the picture I identified the registration and used that to carry out a further search.

I make no claim for authenticity, and I'm expecting at least one other member to come along and expand the attributions that have arisen.

stu105e · #7 3rd January 2012, 20:40

What is the likelyhood that anyone will have photo's of Stanley Gath coaches. esp WRC751.

What work did they do, holidays etc, or local stuff like kids school buses and trips to the baths etc?

I have done Google and flickr searches, but not many photos of what appears to be a large company with much varied fleet.

I wonder if the number meant something to the owners of the company, for them to keep re-issuing it on several coaches, and only letting it go upon their closure.

Thanks Again.

Stu

robertdavey6 · #8 3rd January 2012, 20:46

If he was a Yorkshire man, it's quite possible he didn't want to change the service board, every time a reg. was added or removed, from the fleet. Easier to to kee re-using the same numbers.

(Written by a Yorkshire man. Born, bred and proud of it.)

P.S. Don't ask me the definition of a Yorkshire man.

G-CPTN · #9 3rd January 2012, 20:48

The primary advantage of a registration like that is that it disguises the age of the vehicle, which is why some operators choose Irish registrations.

Once they had acquired it they only had to pay the transfer fee rather than having to buy another from a dealer and pay his fees as well.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...orkshire%20Man

stu105e · #10 3rd January 2012, 21:28

Good idea, makes sense. just thinking, how many people (Not us enthusiasts) look at the reg of a bus to take us somewhere. If a coach get us there, looks smart and tidy its good, no further thoughts, if its old rattly, leaky, breaks down, battered and bruised and generally looking sorry for itself the public will notice. An undated plate could make a 5 year old bus appear new if its been well treated, of older if neglected.

I too am a yorkshire lad, although born in Middlesbrough, but lived in a north Yorkshire Village all my life. Even got my fiancee to move from the smog(Middlesbrough) to the country, (Didn't tell her there was a dairy farm at the end of our street. She likes seeing the cows now.)

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