nobby dentrassangle

[deckboypeggy]

HI TO YOU ALL ,QUESTION who or which was the first general haulage company to be part run then taken over byNorbet dentrassangle in the uk.

[TRAMPER]

sheddicks from newport suoth wales i think

[robertdavey6]

Or, was it Aston Clinton Haulage. (Often refered to as Aids Clap & Herpes.)

For those that don't know, Aston Clinton was the village in which they were based.

[TRAMPER]

i forgot about that firm ACH they were from aston clinton in bucks were they not

[deckboypeggy]

Hi Rovbertdavy6, yes you are correct it was A.C.H. they had moved from the village to AYLESBURY when theywere taken over forget the year i worked for them at the time, i left and restated 4 times over my driving years working for them.best paid ,hardest job you could wish for ,,David FOWLER ,THE BOSS that was the family name,absoulty *******,,nearly all ITALY, GREECE, GERMANY, SWISS,
allways good kit ,spot on. first to have Magnams i never had one not a company man...scania ,volvos all top range.run as bent as you could they would pay the fines,,3 shifts calais to brindeis,barra,providing the blanc was ok.
good or bad old days. the new age drivers now have no idea what driving was about. probly a good thing..i am now retired.but you dont forget...
some of the old hands were ex middle east men,so the runs were set..we all got done inMarch1994 mega fines ach./nobby paid lost loads of licences etc .18 t0 20 hours tachos.good old days.r/grds deckboypeggy...alias

[G-CPTN]

Wonderful stories, deckboypeggy.

Keep them coming!

[robertdavey6]

I knew some of the ACH drivers by sight, from running to Italy myself. As usual didn't know any names. Just, maybe, sometimes you would learn a C.B. "handle".

We weren't allowed to run bent. We were always legal(ish). One time, cleaing customs at Congorezzo the driver (not ACH) was out of hours at the same time as me but, I parked up and he didn't. He tipped his groupage, in Milan, that night. He then drove to his 1st "on wheels" delivery.
The next time I saw him, he had been back to their yard, in the North-West of England (tipped & reloaded) and was on his way back south. We waved at each other, somewhere between Calais and Paris. I was still heading home from my trip and he was on his 2nd.
I later heard that he'd come to greif on the Blanc. Went straight on, when he should've followed the curve of the road. Tis a long way to the bottom.

I've a few more tales from those days. Possibly, the best days of my working life.

[deckboypeggy]

Hi robertdavy6 wereyou on AI FROM LEEDS OR Bowkers,FUNNY ifinished my driving on BOWKERS,now they were a good out fit,how i wished i had lived up north then they would only employ blackburn.preston local lads,, we moved to blackpool in1990 but i still worked in the south,ACH,ROKOLD, PULLEYNS,SOLSTOR.ALL GOOD FIRMS 3to 4 weeks away then 3 days home then at last got on to BOWKERS ,THAT WOULD DO FOR ME.i am thinking of writing a book about my road haulage but no one would belive 90percent of it.

WHO remembers the old roads to ITALY, chasing round the paris parifaphiqie [ring road]doging the police at payagies if you spotted them first.to anyone who didnt know the first bung was at the customs Calais when you was all done[papers stamped,permits/or a EECbook if you were lucky, you drove up to the exit the gate and a customs man would get on the door step to look at your fuel guge ,it was allways full and you would slip him 20francs and off you go. i had a mate who would wind all the new blokes up,you would spot them a mile off in dover,and hear them.most blokes kept quite,and listened thatwas the way you learned,anyway he would tell them that they had to do a food delcaration form from "Cluses" for the italians in Aosta and that you needed a crash hat for the blanc.,as well as "snow chains in the winter which you were suppossed to have" we would have great fun ,sadly at their exspence. THE BAKE HOUSE .THE MONKEY HOUSE .THE WHITE HOUSE.CLUSES all good eating houses.

[robertdavey6]

Don't forget the Sisters, at Arluno or, was it Carissio? I never went but I heard about it. If I remember correctly, there were two sisters. Born in England but living in Italy and a brother. He was born in Italy but lived in England.

There was also a good place at St Pietro in Gu. Part of the old station buildings. There was a lyby on the opposite side of the road. I spent one night in there. There was a Dutch driver, Italian staff, drivers from (at least France & Germany. Plus myself. Of course, the Dutchman was translating for every one else.

I worked for Bibby Distribution. Though, I think on my first trip (setting off on 19th November 1981) the unit was still in TWF's colours.
We worked for Nedlloyd or Merzario to Italy.

[hilifta]

Great stories Guys, keep them coming.
I've just shouted myself for Xmas, a couple of books, and a DVD about Middle East trucking, all from Amazon. (Free post to NZ, saved 24 quid)
Can't wait to get them.

I read the book "Juggernaut" a few years ago about Middle East trucking, Great read, I couldn't put it down.

So, as I said, keep the stories coming.

[deckboypeggy]

Hi Hilifta, i had the fortune to work with a cople of ex middle east drivers [not the cola cowboys] pioneers of road haulage a speciel breed at the right place at the right time.i called euro haulage ."the merchant navy on wheels" good and bad men able to think on their feet ,at boarders etc not scared of much,good boozers another important requisit not piss heads but good social drinkers..not the done think now,however we all had our weekend watering holes,whereever in europe you were,custom compounds.you would allways find brits,dutch ,danes ,germans .french, no east euros then.poles,etc.ps i was in Auckland 1962/3 on the ships..and usual ports,did miss one in lyttleton, put on the wellington ferry [wari---- something] 2 days later .rejioned ship.whoops.girls again.plus beer,

[deckboypeggy]

the sisters ithink was arluno i allways weekended at carriso,good showers last there in about2002 .safe parking that was the issue in the /my later years... .i never used the restarunt as much i was a bit of a cab cooker,i used a preesure cooker the reason was i was a fridge man,,double unsocial hours day and night,allways deadlines allways late,the problms where never ending if only i knew what a easier life i would have had if i had gone stright on to tilts but hey ho,
etc.i was known for feeding the lads,when not in a proper parking area that came later,,, It was 1980 when i did my first trips abroad,well locals really,holand ,belguim, crept into france a lttle bit only with the permitsas you know you never went anywhere unless you had the right permit.issued from newcastle.there were not a lot of companys doing euro then lots of owner drivers.. ,i was gently being led into the unknown in driving,and learning the paperwork,you never ever new it all.some distant frontier allways threw a crippler,and then you had to start looking and watching .what coloured bits of paper other drivers had got , who speaks english ,where do you get ,do you need one do you need a agent.it was endless somtimes.sorrry waffling

[G-CPTN]

In the 1960s we used to take vehicles (in a boxvan) to Germany for testing.
We also carried all spares (including tyres) and had to return the used/broken pieces to England.
The customs at Aachen used to cause aggro as they were convinced we were importing new vehicles that we were going to sell in Germany.

Later, in the 1980s, I used to drive the test car down to Nardò (way down south in Italy) carrying spares as well.
The worst customs were the Austrians as they knew we were just passing through but always made life difficult, insisting on checking every piece listed on the carnet.

Then there were the trips to Italy (in the 1970s) loaded with concrete blocks as ballast. The Italians were puzzled as to why we were importing 'marble' into Italy.

When south of Rome we used to contact the local Cosa Nostra and pay them to guard the vehicles when parked overnight (otherwise our spare wheels and supplies of diesel would have disappeared). It was usually a young 'boy' in a Fiat 500 (sometimes toting a shotgun) that spent the night on duty.

[deckboypeggy]

Well capt.you were one of the first ,what a exciting job you had.did you use the brenner or the blanc.what cars were they not british leyland i bet.Aachen kept up there resistance to us brits untill the boarders opened,with a carnet-de-passage i bet they were swines.
if you were going east you had a T2L for your fuel ,all sealed up, all-so a load carnet god forbid you got the wrong boarders.i used to imagine what it must have been like for the british army in ITALYdriving butt clenching i bet..i remember seeing removel vans in aosta getting the works done to them when they should have had a clear passage..
i worked for a company whos boss and friend made loads of dosh taking racing tyres as hand lugggage on planes world wide as they would bend up[the tryes] no paper work..1970s. the swiss didnt need any lessons as being **** ---- they were classic. i once went the wrong road to como in the car lane at night from italy ,to transit swiss.world war 3erupted ,my fault i was empty, to load in france yes i knew the 10pm swiss ban but iwanted to first haha. hourslater iwas let through

i also transited swiss weighing 44tons legal from italy to denmark , if you used the train from 10ks outside como to mullhouse.its called the humpack..
driving a powder tanker for vos.

[hilifta]

Hi Hilifta, i had the fortune to work with a cople of ex middle east drivers [not the cola cowboys] pioneers of road haulage a speciel breed at the right place at the right time.i called euro haulage ."the merchant navy on wheels" good and bad men able to think on their feet ,at boarders etc not scared of much,good boozers another important requisit not piss heads but good social drinkers..not the done think now,however we all had our weekend watering holes,whereever in europe you were,custom compounds.you would allways find brits,dutch ,danes ,germans .french, no east euros then.poles,etc.ps i was in Auckland 1962/3 on the ships..and usual ports,did miss one in lyttleton, put on the wellington ferry [wari---- something] 2 days later .rejioned ship.whoops.girls again.plus beer,

With that "handle" I thought you were an ex seafarer.
All the bush pigs have now gone with all the crazy security that we have nowadays. Haven't seen one for years.
Miss the antics the bushies used to get up to though, from falling down gangways and into the sea when pissed, to in one case, doing a complete strip on the dock as the ship was sailing at 11pm in the middle of winter. And to cap that one off, the old man had his Missus with him and she was looking over over the bridgewing. Great bit of NZ culture!.
Great laughs.

Mike