New Video: Driving in snow (added by Bobjork)

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Driving in snow
Keywords: snow scania sweden driving sliding almost crashing lidingö bosön
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[Bobjork]

This is me driving a bus in snow yesterday evening.
I start at Bosön (or actually som meters after that stop to avoid starting uphill) and then drive towards the big road and the stop Rudboda torg where route 204/212 joins my route (211).
The badly parked truck was very tight to pass and the bus started to slide.
Fortunately something stopped the rear axle so it didn't leave the road.

[G-CPTN]

Does your bus have any 'extras' such as winter tyres (with or without studs), antilock brakes and/or traction control?

[Bobjork]

Does your bus have any 'extras' such as winter tyres (with or without studs), antilock brakes and/or traction control?

No winter tyres, but when the winter arrives, they put on new tyres.
We have antilock brakes and traction control on all our buses.

[G-CPTN]

Thanks.
I've never driven with traction control, so I don't know how effective it would be in snow.
Does it operate on the front wheels too?

[Bobjork]

I think the traction control only operates at the rear wheels. (Never seen the "TC" indicator being lit when braking or turning) The traction control only activates when driving, so no "traction wheels" are spinning.
The antilock brakes however work on all wheels and are quite effective in making the bus go in the direction you want as long as the bus doesn't start to slide sideways, wich was the case in the video. First sliding right (towards the truck) then I managed to get grip on the front wheel but then the rear wheels slided left.

But the traction control is a good help when driving uphill.

[dmackay]

Traction control on cars is great in snow especially when towing a trailer,nearly as good as a 4x4 :)

[Bobjork]

Traction control on cars is great in snow especially when towing a trailer,nearly as good as a 4x4 :)

Yes, I have it on my Volvo. A good car to tow with.

[G-CPTN]

The Volvo 200 was probably the worst vehicle for traction in snow.
(The Vauxhall Victor FD was almost as bad, but that didn't originate in a snowy country.)

[Bobjork]

But the Volvo 200 was good at every other point. No other Volvo was built for so long. :)
Many of them are still left. As long as the rust don't get them, they keep running.

[G-CPTN]

Agreed - built like a tank.
Many were refurbished and sold 'like new' in Denmark.

I don't know the current situation, but in the 1980s all vehicles were subject to 180% importation tax (there were no vehicles built in Denmark - all were imported). This meant that existing vehicles were cherished and it was worth spending significant sums on doing them up rather than spend on new ones. Even secondhand (used) vehicles were taxed when imported (and Danes were prohibited from driving non-Danish registered vehicles in Denmark - to prevent temporary importation of non duty-paid vehicles).

[Bobjork]

Still many 240/245 rolling in Sweden.

In Sweden it's not allowed for a swede to drive a car with a foreign plate.
And if I move to Norway I'm only allowed to have my car for a year. Then I must get special permission. Or get a norweigan license plate for it...